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Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:15 am
Recently, I've seen televised ads for a Face Lift and for a Tummy Tuck Belt. It surprised me to find myself feeling a little offended (more at the Face Lift ad). It said phrases like, "You'll feel beautiful" and "You'll look yonger". That kind of stuff. It just really bothered me that they were trying to sell "beauty". How do you do that?! I'm not beautiful the way I am now? Don't women (and men) have a difficult time already feeling like they are attractive? And why is it so bad growing old? You've experienced a great deal of life and every grows old and eventually passes on. Why spend time and money trying to stall the process?
Seriously society. Why must you add the the low confidence that many people already have? It's taken a long time for me to feel comfortable in my own body. Quit trying to tell me that I'm not beautiful enough.

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What do you think about things like face lifts and related things?
How do you feel about trying to look younger?
Are you comfortable in your own body?
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Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:00 am
I think I may have heard of those, but I'm not sure. All I can think of is the Instant Eye Lift stickies. I think if people want to do them, then I see no problem. If it negatively affects those around them (hypothetical example, a high-powered lawyer wants to look like Barbie-this would affect her credibility and probably her income), then they should reconsider. I am eighteen and do not consider myself old enough to undergo such procedures or buy such products, but should I decide to in the future, I will probably not deviate much from my actual face. Of course, there is that risk that the procedure may not turn out as expected, and one may look totally different. Age-appropriateness applies to an extent, unless someone is trying to project a certain image.

As for looking younger, I put on my list the Say Yes to Blueberries set, and my mother got them for me for Christmas. I have very fair skin, so I should start soon on anti-aging. I was very excited to try them, and while they kind of work on me, they leave me extremely greasy. I realized that they were not targeting my age bracket, so now I have to find other products that will handle my skin. Again, if it makes someone happy, they should. However, when it comes to dressing to match this younger appearance, I still believe it depends on your actual age to an extent. It creeps me out whenever I see middle-aged women in Kohl's or Ross who do not look young, riffling through the junior's section because the clothing fits. Just because something fits does not mean it should be worn.

At present, I do not feel that I am comfortable in my own body. I have a few medical issues that I need to consult with my new doctor about taking care of, especially my acne. I feel that as I age a year or two, my skin will stop producing so much oil, and the classes I will take will challenge me to improve my image. I am currently enrolled in two classes that are said to tone and help students lose weight (yoga/pilates, and aerobics, respectively), and I have high expectations for them. I do not feel that I ever truly grew out of the "awkward ugly middle school" period.
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Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:09 pm
What do you think about things like face lifts and related things? I don't buy into any of the cosmetic surgery mumbo jumbo that goes on now a days it is dangerous and I feel that it maekes you look fake.

How do you feel about trying to look younger? I don't want to look any younger than I am. I may be aging and hitting some higher numbers but I am only as young as I feel and I will tell you I still feel like a tea=enager in so many ways!!

Are you comfortable in your own body? Yes I am and this is where the story comes in for the anything else related part. I was at the mall a few weeks ago and some man from a kiosk called me over and told me I was 98% beautiful but if I could use his miracle cream to get rid of the bags under my eyes I would be gorgeous. How insulting is that?? His only saving grace is that he asked me if I had a boyfriend because he wanted to take me out for coffee aftr his shift in which I replied I do and that he is far more gorgeous than anything your miracle cream could ever transform you into
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Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:58 pm
Wow, that's rather insulting. 98% beautifu. pfft.
I loved your response to the guy Smile

I've only had a few experiences with kioks sales people and they've learned to leave me alone.

You have a good outlook =)
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Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:03 am
What do you think about things like face lifts and related things?
personally i love most types of body modification to make yourself more comfortable in your own skin but i know i could never do it. i'd much rather stretch my ears/lip, or get my ears pointed even. :3
How do you feel about trying to look younger?
i think people shouldn't mess with the aging process. XD
Are you comfortable in your own body?
at the moment, no, not really. i have something i'd like to make happen before i am comfortable. :3
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Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:47 am
Thanks Riley I try very hard to steer clear of kiosks at all costs but I was in such a hurry that day I couldn't get away fast enough. I know it is a little off topic but there used to be a Kiosk for Scientology at the mall around here which didn't last long but some of the things they would say to me when I walked by were off the wall
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What do you think about things like face lifts and related things?

I don't mind them too much. I think they're quite handy, even. Like when you get your face burned off....or ripped off by a dragon DON'T FRET. WE CAN GIVE YOU A NEW ONE Very Happy

Also handy for zombies wanting to blend in with humans :3

How do you feel about trying to look younger?
A lot of people view it as messing with the aging process. I view it as just skin care.

Are you comfortable in your own body?
At the moment, I'd like to lose about 10-20 pounds. There's several reasons for it, such as feeling like said extra weight is holding me back with running XD

Otherwise I've never had a real problem feeling comfortable.

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Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:29 am
I am never quite sure how to respond to the idea of cosmetic surgery. I had it done when I was nine.

When I was little, I had a large, red birthmark on the side of my nose. It was very visible, and impossible to ignore. I got teased a lot about it and it made my life hard when I was little. My teachers wanted my parents to have it removed when I was very young in order to prevent issues, but my parents chose to wait a few years.

I really don't know how much of the childhood bullying I put up with was due to that birthmark, and how much was due to the fact that I was a quiet kid who did not conform to what everyone else said and did. I also had a bad habit of speaking my mind and telling people that they were jerks. xD I can't say I regret it much now ... because I like who I turned out to be.

As an adult, I would not consider cosmetic surgery unless it was for something like a birthmark or a scar or disfigurement. I do feel that this type of surgery is sadly beneficial in this world. People judge a lot by what they see, and if you do have a visible scar or blemish, it does impact how people treat you and it can be really damaging to self-esteem.

I have two small scars on my face. One from that cosmetic surgery, a second one from a fall into a table when I was very young. People don't notice or comment on them unless they look really closely, so I don't care much about them. I'm considered moderately attractive, which probably makes it a lot easier to like me and accept these scars. I'm probably a bit more vain than I really ought to be, all things considered. But it works well enough for me.

I would not pursue cosmetic surgery in order to look younger. I think of that as a denial of aging and an attempt to escape the inevitable. And I don't think wrinkles are really that bad a thing. I think by the time I get old enough to have serious wrinkles I will be alright with them. They're a sign of living life well. Plus, I plan to have lots of laugh lines and smile lines. And I wouldn't want to trade those for a stiff face and risk muscle paralysis from something like Botox.

I hope I am valued by people for more than just my physical appearance. 'Cause honestly ... if they just like me because I look pretty they're not the type of person I really want to attract.
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Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:16 am
What do you think about things like face lifts and related things?
Eeeehhh.... For me, personally, I think it's silly. I don't like the idea of altering myself to fit the view of society. It being implied that I don't feel beautiful is VERY insulting.

How do you feel about trying to look younger?
There are may HEALTHY ways to try and look younger, ones that don't include using surgery to enhance or detract anything. Also, I've known some pretty kick-**** old men and women. You don't need to look young to feel it.

It also strikes me as something too..... vain, really. We're born dying, people. Just admit it, and don't try to fight it. It's part of being mortal.

Are you comfortable in your own body?
Quite. I have always been comfortable in my own skin. I like being who I am, even if other people find me difficult or unattractive, I am happy, and I think I'm pretty. Not beautiful, but pretty. And if I put work into it, I can be damn beautiful, I just prefer to be plain and comfortable.

I never was one to conform to society. I didn't start wearing a sports bra until I realized how physically uncomfortable I was, I rarely wore anything meant to grab attention, and when I did it was cause I was the one who wanted to feel pretty, not because someone else said I should.
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Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:19 am
Riley wrote:
Seriously society. Why must you add the the low confidence that many people already have?


The answer is simple: Because people are willing to believe the lies. That and their "remedies" for all aging issues that ail you sell big bucks... strangely though it sells most often to those who are still very much in their youth rather then to the old. Makes you realize how absolutely and successfully conditioned society is to fear looking anything but 20/ 30.

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What do you think about things like face lifts and related things?

I can understand the appeal (I've caught myself tugging at some crows feet in the past) but I think that the "cosmetic surgery to look younger" thing (and very specifically this) is dangerous. Aside from the obvious medical complications that can arise, it will instill an unmaintainable expectation for yourself. And those supplying this "service" get fat wallets from your fear of getting old.

Such surgeries resulting from serious medical problem, or even non-life threatening but serious physical disfigurements I am NOT including in the above.

How do you feel about trying to look younger?

It's hard to resist. The media just about makes it a crime to look older. And social expectations and treatment of the older generations leaves little to look forward to.

Personally, I adhere to the natural approach to looking younger (even if I don't do all of it):
Don't smoke, don't drink in excess, eat well, sleep plenty, laugh often and take the occasional chance!

Youth, after all, is 9/10ths state of mind! And the above will ensure you have a healthy mindset.

Are you comfortable in your own body?

I want to say yes, but I'd be lying. I'm more comfortable now then I was in my teens and even in my 20s, but I still have things that make me cringe when I look in the mirror. My battle is ongoing as various things break down and life (and gravity!) take their toll! Razz

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"Age is an issue of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter."
- Mark Twain -

I'm working on making this ^^ my mantra. Yes ^_______^

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Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:35 am
The things people do to make money. You would think that decades old add campaign staples like "Women want to be her, men want to be with her," would not still work on us, but they do. It is sad.
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Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:03 am
The advertisements regarding face lifts and basically any cosmetic surgery, even from the doctors provide false information. Botch surgeries are not uncommon. Breast augmentation for example actually has a very low desired success rate as there are really common issues popping up like scarring and the tissue tightening up (you can see porn stars with this with their breasts looking really fake and sticking up weirdly).

Everyone's trying to cash in nowadays by telling everyone, both young and old that they're not good looking enough.

I've always liked it when people age properly. Some even become a lot more attractive as they age such as Sean Connery.

I have severe self esteem problems to the point it does affect my daily life and I can't go out.
The worst part is I know at an intellectual level I'm quite normal and pretty and don't have trouble attracting both men and women if I want to but at an emotional one, I constantly see myself as this hideous creature. There are days I can't go outside and have to avoid any visual media telling me I should have big breasts, a flat stomach, silky smooth skin and hair, bright white teeth and even at times to be a certain race.
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Wed May 30, 2012 5:35 am
This is a hard topic for me because i find myself being biased and hypocritical. On one hand i think its mutilation, on the other i think its your body do what you want! But in all aspects i think it is VERY wrong to try and conform beauty to one group of barbie dolls. If you know what i mean. I have seen it a million times on FB but there is a post of females of all sizes, ages, skin color ect and it says "we are Beautiful just the way we are" and i think nothing is more facinating and true. Humans are DIFFERENT. We are not printed and minted! We are individuals and its very sad that this day and age being pretty is determined by how small you are, or how much money you have invested in fakeness. Boobs, clothes, makeup ect. Now for the hypocrit side. I am obese. Because i have thyroid cancer and heart issues ect. The sad fact is if i could get this all chopped off and sucked out i WOULD. Because i hate the way i look. It is a self image that makes me feel ugly because of the way people look at me. And let me tell you the comments of "but you have such a pretty face!" are not all that much better. I would do it for me not that it determines my self worth but because i want to like what i see in the mirror. I want to see the ME i used to be. Its hard to love who i am now because all the years of "brianwashed" body image issues have taken their toll. Some days i am fine, others i am a wreck and wish that i could win a million dollers get all the meds i need and then start a exercise, diet plan to help myself. Dreams are good i suppose. But there comes a point when you have to accept who you are no matter what because You only get one body. Love it for what it is, not what you wish it could be.
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Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:46 pm
Well, I'm like 21, so if anything right now I want to look older.
I'm sure that when I get older though, I'll want to look younger.

My outer appearance isn't too much of a concern for me. I'm not obsessed with looking great all the time.

Honestly, I think people that get face lifts are terrified of aging and perhaps have very low self esteem of themselves.

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Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:24 am
What do you think about things like face lifts and related things?
I say it's all up to the person doing it. Whatever puts them in a comfortable zone is fine by me, even if it means removing who they are. Just because you feel good about yourself doesn't mean someone else will, and teling them to 'be themselves and love themselves' is so overplayed it doesn't do anything to those you tell it to. If someone I loved or held dearly contemplated it, I'd warn them of the downsides of it to be sure they know, but otherwise it's up to them. I just feel bad that people who do get surgery done get picked on for it. They get called plastic, fake, ugly, hideous, et cetera. Beauty is entirely subjective. The blonde, carrot orange chick with breast that she had major surgery on is just as beautiful as the girl with freckles and red hair who is super pale.

How do you feel about trying to look younger?
I feel bad that older people have to be subjected to this deserted treatment. My mom is one of them. Use to be a model, super skinny, wrinkle free, you get the idea. And she was looking in the mirror and mumbled to me (Or herself, not entirely sure) how she misses her younger self. It's sad that a person can't be happy with who they are because of what is 'cool' or 'hot'. I can see where aging is a bad thing such as aching body parts and things that really DO get in the way in life, but to see a mother lament and actually get depressed because she isn't model-status really disheartens me. I love to compliment men and women who are older because it makes them happy, as they should be. Sadly a compliment goes only so far. Like I said if they want to do surgery, let them.
To be honest I don't feel attacked when I see cosmetic ads. The implications that natural aging is a bad thing feels slightly disheartening to me, but I don't feel like I got slapped or anything.

Are you comfortable in your own body?
I'm very content with my body. I'm lucky to have a high metabolism (Sure makes me lazy LOL) and I love my looks, but like anyone else I have things I wish I could change here or there, but yeah. I'm content. o:
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