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Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:39 am |
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Okay, I don't want this to be some HUGE debate. I just want your opinion.
Now, I don't know where you live, and I'm not going to disclose my location, but the Human Society around here is a load of bull! They get "Millions," of dollars a year, but claim they do not have the funds or space to become a no-kill shelter. When the reality is, they DO!
They say they get in a certain number of animals each year. They also say they spay or neuter EVERY cat or dog the adopt out.(You cannot spay or neuter a bird people.)
And about thirty percent of the animals they receive are adopted. What happens to all the other animals!? I'm not sure, but I'm wanting to say they get in about 138,000
animals a year. I'm also thinking that the number of un-spayed and un-neutered animals is 80,000 roughly. I'm just saying. If they spay or neuter EVERY ANIMAL THEY ADOPT OUT,what happens to the other 80,000. I'll tell ya what they,"Put them to sleep." But in other words, they KILL them. The reason? Because the animal,"No longer has hope for adoption." What makes them have hope for adoption? I think in my opinion, it's the owner and staff not giving a flying crap!
I recall that once upon a time ago, and this was on the news. A woman and her children had gone somewhere for the day, and their two dogs had escaped the fence.
They had 1 male, and 1 female. They went to the Animal Shelter hours later, and instantly saw their male dog in a cage, ready to see them! They soon asked the staff about their female dog, only to discover they had just put her down 5 hours before the families arrival. And something, I'm not sure, but maybe the law states that the Shelter is required to keep any animal for at least 8 hours after receiving it.
The reason the employee's put the poor dog down?
Because she was,"Showing signs of aggression and mange." When the owner of the dog had just got her groomed, TWO DAYS EARLIER.
Maybe I've proven my point, maybe I have not. Please don't flame, and what not, just voice your opinion.
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Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:51 am |
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I completely understand and even agreed with some of your points until I started to work for a humane society. There are some stupid cases where some places just don't care and are only in it for the money. Others, like where I work actually care. In the case with the female dog, the society was DEAD WRONG! A shelter is obligated to hold any animal that they get for 7 days. The only exceptions are if the animal is so sick that meds will not work, or the animal becomes/is so mean the employees and/or volunteers cannot get in with the animal to care for and feed the animal. Even then, they HAVE to hold that animal for at least 48 hours, and then contact the town to see where they should proceed. Once the 7 days is up, the animals are supposed to be checked out to make sure they are safe to be adopted out and healthy. If there is a sick animal and the facility has the room the animal will go into a hospital room and put on meds. I know many people say that humane society's only hold an animal for a short period of time, and if they don't get adopted, they get put down. With the Joplin, Humane Society, unless they get sick (which they usually get sent to the hospital room first if there is room) they stay until they are adopted. I remember this cat named Mickey that we had. Mickey was a 3 year old tabby. Biggest bear and lap cat and lover cat you could ask for. Nobody wanted him because he as an older cat. I had talked my fiance into letting me bring him home. The next day when I went into work, someone had already adopted him. Mickey had been with us for 4 months before he found a home, but we never gave up on him or any of the others. Sadly, if there is not enough space to hold all the animals (trust me, lots of cramming gets done to try to keep as many animals as possible) then yes, there are some that get put down because there just is no room. I don't know how many times my room (the stray cat room) had to put a cat down because they were so sick or wild or we just had no more cages available in the adoption room. It is very hard on me and most of the other staff because we work around these animals day in and day out. We become attached in spite of ourselves. The topic on spaying and neutering for us is that those that are going to be adopted out have to be spayed and neutered by the new owner. Part of their adoption fee goes towards this. The owners have to sign a contract to have their pet spayed or neutered. Although, in some cases the owners never do this and just say they do. We have a program now that a couple has started up where they come in and pay to have some of our adoptable animals spayed and neutered. That is a huge help.It gives more pets the chance for adoption. Our Clinic has just got a grant to expand and get a bigger building with more space for more animals and more hospital room and vets on staff to care for them. Our Main goal in this is to reduce the amount of putting animals down to the point of eliminating it! I pray that we will see this some day soon! Sorry this was so long. Mainly I agree. That clinic was wrong in what they did to the dog. But rest assured that not all of them are bad. _________________ With God's Love,
Christy
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Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:40 am |
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It's too bad about the dog. And perhaps that shelter is a bad one.
But in general, I dont think it's so much the shelter's fault, but not enough people want to adopt. I've only had adopted pets, but I guess most people would rather buy a "cute" baby. I don't get it, it's more expensive and you have to train them. I'd rather have an adult.
But really, I think that most shelters do all they can, and many workers would adopt them all themselves if they could, but there's only so much they can do if the general public doesn't do something too.
Judge not until you have personal experience working in the shelter. _________________ Alex, make Zandex unessential - better site navigation!
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Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:45 am |
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There is many animals on this planet... humans feel they have responsibility for them, and when humans get to short or get lazy, the easiest solution is to ''put them to sleep'' ...
We must also remember, not every single person on the earth can adopt a dog or cat, some are alergic, and some just don't have the time and would just make the pet misserable...
Dogs and cats don't live too well on their own, specially not dogs... easily dirty and influed. A sad thing, that is why some choose to... kill the pet, just so it wont suffer.
I do not support killing a pet myself, but if the pet is old and can barly walk, or if it is deadly sick and has no hope, or if it is a house pet and no longer got an owner, and no one wants it, it would easily die in the whild... still, should only be a 'last option' thing...
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Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:13 am |
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Dogs can be trained very easily if you know how to go about it. I don't believe any dog should be put down for "aggression." Lack of living space is a more adequate reason to euthanize.
I hate it when people don't take responsibility of their pets. I mean, why do they get a pet and not take care of it? It's just as bad as throwing your own baby in the dumpster because it's annoying.
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Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:00 am |
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i wounder what they do ith all the money they are suppost to be nutering the dogs and cats with if thats not really what they are doing?  _________________
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Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:38 pm |
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I think people just like killing thing's. DX _________________ I have a gaian account. Her name is also [Deni]
I have a SpiritsOfArca account. Her name is also [Deni].
Feel free to PM me at either account. <3
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Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:08 pm |
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| Ora of Sol wrote: |
Dogs can be trained very easily if you know how to go about it. I don't believe any dog should be put down for "aggression." Lack of living space is a more adequate reason to euthanize.
I hate it when people don't take responsibility of their pets. I mean, why do they get a pet and not take care of it? It's just as bad as throwing your own baby in the dumpster because it's annoying. |
I agree with you fully, I don't think it's fair for an animal to suffer because the shelter got lazy, and the woman who owns it doesn't want her yard to go un-watered.(She made some of her previous employee's take care of her personal yard )
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Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:32 pm |
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I think blaming the shelter is not really where the blame lies. They can only do so much. IT comes down to irresponsible owners or educating the public. And to mention, not everyone who has to rehome a pet means they are a bad owner. I had to rehome a dog, but he had serious aggression issues. Some dogs nuture ISN'T enough. He just didn't do well with kids (had the children first too) and I refused to take a chance with a baby. I know, he would have done great in a home with a single person or older children. The shleter we took him to was no kill and very friendly.
If you're adamantly against those type of shelters, help no-kill shelters get funding and the message out there. _________________ **Veritas-birthday buddy with a heart of gold! Thank you!**
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Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:26 pm |
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Human is just sad (as in pathetic fyi) sometimes, that's what. If something interfere with our comfort, we discard it ^^ what lovely nature us human have huh? [/sacasm fyi] _________________ Keep in touch Tan xD
=D stalk me on Deviant <3
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