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Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:28 am
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(I found that out a long time ago when I discovered that almost half of the "Show Girls" weren't "Girls" at all).




XD I'm sure that was quite a shock at first.


It was confusing as well as shocking. . .also seeing their show make-up (show girls and boys) was not as attractive as they looked on stage because it was really over-done so that they all looked very similar. . .Vegas can be very confusing, but also very entertaining.
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Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:24 pm
I imagine it is! I've never been there, but maybe if I ever do go I should get a tattoo while I'm there. XD
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Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:54 pm
There are even tattoo parlors in some of the Hotel/Casinos. . .so that is something that could be easily done!
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Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:29 am
I've never asked myself if I would be embarrassed by them by the time I'm 80. I guess because what I have had done (aside from the very public medical alert), is very personal to me and I've put so much thought into them. Spending 5 years with an idea in your head before being ready to commit it to your skin means (to me at least) that I won't be getting rid of them any time soon.

Now, because I can't find my glasses, I'm going to have to read the other posts a little later because seriously blurry eyes are blurry. >.<
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Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:12 pm
It amazes me how Las Vegas specializes in making everything quick and easy. Might as well. Life is short. XD Although I imagine a lot of regrets have happened there.



I guess I asked myself because I've heard older people complain of regrets. I thought I should at least ask myself, but I truly don't know for sure how my 80 year old self will feel about things. I can't imagine I'll sit around complaining about my tattoos though. I have plenty of other things to complain about. XD
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Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:25 pm
Assuming evolution is correct, do you think that if humans went extinct another species as intelligent as humans would evolve? If life exists long enough on a planet, is intelligence and consciousness inevitable?
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Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:48 pm
Even if evolution is correct, and I have mixed feelings on that subject, I have my doubts that another species would take our place as the most intelligent. I do not think that intelligent beings are inevitable. I am not egotistical, and I don't think that humans are better than other species. However, I do think that our planet is special, and so are the creatures on it. Our planet is a miracle even if you take the religious factor out of it. We had to have the perfect storm, but in a good way, to exist.

I do believe there is life on other planets, but I think planets similar to ours are few and far between which is why we haven't found any yet. Animals are smarter than we give them credit for, but none of them can compete with our intelligence. I think that we would probably already being seeing signs of a species starting to catch up with us, or changing in some capacity, if they were going to.

I also don't see why there would only be room for one intelligent species on a planet. Who knows?! Maybe if we ever do find another planet with intelligent life on it they may have 2 or more intelligent species. If we categorized animals by their intelligence there would be more than one species in each group so it stands to reason it would be possible to have more than one intelligent species. I do have my doubts that they could get along though. Humans don't even like each other so I doubt that they would take to another intelligent species very well.
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Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:51 am
I'm assuming that this question gets answered in a way, with the movie Planet of the Apes. Never seen it, never going to watch it.

But if you look at different locations where humans have left for whatever reason, nature takes back over. We make the assumption that plants don't have intelligence, but how do we measure intelligence? Are humans truly the most intelligent creature out there? We have a scale for human intelligence, but aside from our closest animal cousins, we have no way of knowing or understanding other species intelligence or what they classify as intelligent.
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Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:06 pm
I think it did, but it's been so long since I watched it I don't remember. XD

That's true, but that's because we've been the ones cutting the trees, grass, etc. down. I don't think they're coming back because of intelligence, they just grow when there's no one/nothing to impede their growth. I'm not saying plants don't have some type of intelligence, but I do believe they are mainly just programmed to grow.

I do agree that the way we measure intelligence needs to change. Even with humans we typically go by IQ tests, but they don't measure every kind of intelligence. For example, emotional intelligence and common sense aren't measured at all. Those categories are very important, but they have been left out.

I also think measuring intelligence has caused some problems. We live in a world that doesn't value a being unless they are deemed intelligent. The same way we don't value people unless they are beautiful. It's really annoying when doctors/lawyers talk down to us because they assume we're stupid since we're not a lawyer/doctor too. Rolling Eyes Every living thing on this planet has something to offer, and they are awesome simply because they exist.
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Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:42 am
Planet of the Apes chose apes because they are our closest cousins. . .and I liked the originals (including the old TV series), the new movies seemed too anti-human.

And I do believe that if we (mankind) were to disappear off the face of the earth and the planet remained in tact, something might evolve enough to kind of take our place. As a sci-fi nut, I have seen many stories where the "people" of other planets evolved from creatures similar to those on Earth. . .everything from cats to bears to birds and even kangaroos.

I also believe that we (mankind) would have to be incredibly egotistical to think with the billions or trillions or more planets out there, that WE are the only planet to develop intelligent beings.

I even remember that in the original movie "The Thing" (starring James Arness as the creature) that the scientist said the creature was more related to a carrot than to us. . .just food for thought (*chuckles*).

As to whether or not a planet could develop more than one "intelligent" being, I guess anything is possible. I remember an episode of the original Star Trek (Let That Be Your Battlefield) where there were two surviving aliens and both were half black and half white (literally), one had black on the right side of their body, the other had black on the left side of their body. . .Kirk said they were the same people and one said no we are not, "I'm Black and White and he's White and Black" (I know may not apply, but it is an episode I really remember).

There have been many sci-fi stories that include more than one "intelligent" race including one where they were looking for the origin of human life (the premise being that we developed elsewhere and ended up on Earth) and when they finally found "our" origins, they discovered that we had shared a planet with "giants" and that "we" were that planet's rats!

I know, I have been 'blathering', but it really is an interesting question and seems to be one that has been a part of science fiction since the beginning of that genre.

As to finding a different way to measure intelligence here on Earth. . .most of the research and testing of such involves the abilities we and other creatures have. . .

We know that apes are close to us (by genetics) and that some have been trained to use tools or like Koko actually trained to use sign language.

We know that different animals have ways to communicate with each other, such as whales and porpoises.

We know that many insects have a hive mentality and each has their own assigned duties (bees, ants, etc.).

We have seen that beavers can build things (dams) and that otters can use simple tools (rocks to crack mussels, etc.) but as to whether or not that is inherited knowledge or learned behavior, I think it is debated.

As to IQ tests, I don't believe they were ever meant to measure emotional intelligence or common sense, as I have found that some of the most intelligent people haven't a clue about "common sense".

As to not valuing people unless they are beautiful and that some lawyers, doctors, etc., do have a tendency to talk down to people (I usually disregard anything they say), we also have built in prejudices, like assuming because our doctor has a southern accent, they are less intelligent than say one with a British accent. . .so it does kind of go both ways.

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Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:24 am
New Question Time!

If it was discovered that personality traits were partly genetic and could be removed with gene therapy, would it be ethical to edit out negative character traits that harm others like extreme aggression, compulsive lying, or cruelty?

I honestly need to think about this for a bit before giving an answer, but I figure it is an interesting topic to discuss for now. Yes
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Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:12 am
I am not a fan of genetic engineering. . .before too long, only "perfect" babies will be the norm. . .but who decides what "perfect" is???
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Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:31 am
I'm in agreement with you Sir Scarz. What is perfect to you, might not be perfect to me. We all view the world so differently. I can understand WHY they would want to remove those traits...but I think we need them to survive really.

I can understand genetic engineering when it comes to food. Golden rice has been specifically designed with Vitamin A in it and it has been said that it is for regions of Africa where they are Vitamin A deficient and need it for better health. Then you get the middle class mum, who is basically well off, shouting down that it is bad....ok, I have gone WAAAAAAAY off topic there, so I am going to leave that sh*tstorm for another topic. >.>
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Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:16 pm
I do not mind the genetic engineering when it comes to food, as bo said, those improvements can help in underdeveloped areas or areas that are having health problems due to lack of vitamins, etc., I can see developing pest resistant plants as long as doing so doesn't take away from the plants ability to produce and that those changes will not affect those that eat them.

In a way, I can see doing what can be done to eliminate birth defects, as long as it isn't done to extremes.

I don't want to see doctors playing god.

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Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:42 am
Genetic removal of negative character traits. I can see the appeal, but my mind immediately goes to Gattica and Brave New World.

And, if we allow the removal of obvious negative traits, like pedophilia, I can see society going down a slippery slope, to the point where we would have to legally define the criteria to be able to mess with someone's genetic makeup. And things that I would view as negative might not be seen as negative to others.

It would also be a question of, is this really who this person is, after we messed with him or her? What if, in trying to remove certain negative traits, we end up creating different negative traits? If someone was cured of their compulsion to steal, they might become super aggressive or violent with someone if the person observes or perceives another person stealing.

Not a fan of altering genetics.
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