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Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:29 pm
Yeah, it's a worry that the building materials that we've been using for the last 10 years at least, aren't as safe as they should be. However, I think the fact that there are businesses out there that willingly buy inferior materials to either save money or just to increase their profits. On the other hand, there are cases where someone who fills out the paperwork is stealing money from the company while still supplying the necessary materials, they just happen to be inferior materials.

As for the baby formula issue, the people who buy it in bulk here, sell it for almost triple the price and unfortunately, people are going to buy it. They don't trust their own food supply chain or manufacturers of the baby formula. It's a sad state of affairs really.
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Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:13 pm
*grumbles* There's just too many crooked people, companies, and governments out there. Crying or Very sad

I was just looking at formula the other day, and thinking that I was glad I don't have to deal with that. It was expensive enough when my son was a baby. As you pointed out though, at least it's safe.
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Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:21 am
That is true. Anything for a quick buck in the end. As a lecturer said, you go into business to make money. Some people might go in with ideals of a better world and all that jazz, but at the end of the day, it's all about money.

I think the issue with China is, in the end, we are only ever going to be able to have a "western" view of the country. There is nothing wrong with that either, it's just the way the world is right now...and has been for the past few hundred years or so.

I'm going to either think up a new question, or find a new question later. I need to get my reading done for my tutorial this afternoon. I'm skipping my lab this morning, I really can't be bothered with biology today. Sigh

Edit: Ok, I found a new question.

Would you be able to tell if time had been altered in some way?
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Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:30 am
Would you be able to tell if time had been altered in some way?

I have a feeling I might feel a bit out of sorts, but probably wouldn't know why. . .however, what if you were the only one who could tell and no one would believe you?


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Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:48 pm
I think we might not know if it was something minor, but if a major change happened I think we would know. I believe that's what happens to people with Dissociative Identity Disorder. If you lose enough time, you start to wonder where it went. However, that would only work if we were allowed to remember. It stands to reason that whoever has the power to alter time would also have the power to make us oblivious to it. As Sir Scarz pointed out, I believe it would be possible that a few very aware people might notice, and everyone would think they are just crazy.
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Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:30 pm
You know the first thing that came to mind when I found that question? It's a glitch in the Matrix lol. And then I spent at least 20 minutes laughing my arse off at myself. Laughing

But it also made me think about that French term, deja vu. Like maybe I've seen or felt this before, but I don't know where or if it is truly real for me kinda thing.

So, my way of thinking is, if I get a sense of deja vu, then either I have felt this way before or this has happened to me before, but I obviously have no memory of it happening in this lifetime, but perhaps it has happened in a previous lifetime. It's one way to look at it I suppose.
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:11 pm
Could be a glitch in the Matrix. XD

I believe scientists now believe that deja vu is our brains way of trying to fix a corrupted memory. I don't really buy it though. I think more like you do.
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Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:23 pm
Alrighty then, time to (sorta) un-neglect this thread!

New question...or really musing.

Are the drugs (legal, not illegal) available today the answer for people living with chronic pain, or other chronic conditions, or do we need to look towards alternative therapies to either better manage or hopefully "cure" these chronic issues?
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Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:16 am
That's a difficult question. I would say they are an answer, just not a good long term answer.

Speaking from my personal experience, my chronic pain can be managed without narcotics, but I have had several prescriptions for Vicodin and Norco over the 20 years I've been dealing with this. Most of the time, the meds expired before I used them all, because I only used them for days when I was confined to the couch in the fetal position. My pain is managed with exercise, ice/heat, Motrin/Tylenol, chiropractic sessions, and sometimes massage sessions.

But that is my pain and I've learned how to manage it. Being a nurse, most of my patients are dealing with chronic pain. I don't know what their pain feels like, nor do I know what they've tried before. I know that people tend to want instant gratification, so most people don't stick with exercise or PT long term. They give up on it if they don't get the results they want immediately, and turn to something else. There are also some people who have unrealistic expectations, and think that their pain needs to be completely 100% gone. That may not be realistic for many people, yet they turn to meds or drugs. And some people have a low pain tolerance.

I guess my point is that there are a lot of different factors that come into play when talking about chronic pain management, and I suspect it is pretty individualized. And to give a direct answer to your question, yes, we need to look at alternative therapies instead of throwing medication at people, especially if it's going to be for long term treatment.
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Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:57 pm
I know very little about this subject, but it would be nice to see them be able to block? the pain. Kind of like an epidural, but without the being basically paralyzed part. Just a thought.
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Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:41 pm
Being someone who also has experience with living with chronic pain (hence the reason for leading with the chronic pain stance), I don't agree with all drug therapies, nor do I agree with all alternative therapies used to treat chronic pain. And as Riley has said, not everyone experiences this the same way and therefore the treatment for each person and the effect of the treatment for each person will vary significantly. I know there are some people out there, who often over exaggerate what they are going through either to gain more sympathy or access to stronger pain medications.

For me personally, with my experiences, I have been at the top end of the pain scale, where most other people have already gone to the ER when their pain is around a 7 or 8, I've laid in bed after taking the strongest (at the time it was over the counter, but now you need a script for it) otc painkillers I had and a heat pack (or 3 because heat typically helps me) and my pain levels were playing jump rope with the 10 on the pain scale. I've been in absolute agony, yet I've refused to go to hospital (probably when I should have gone), because a) I am stubborn as hell and don't want to feel like I am wasting the time of the ER staff or taking away from people who are more in need of medical attention, and b) I'm already doing what I know that I will most likely be told to do or take at home.

I'm not at a point where I can use exercise to help manage my pain, however, now that I'm on a medication that doesn't completely mind f**k me, I have a better handle on my pain management and can walk further than I had been able to before without developing crippling pain. I take less low levels of pain killers (at my worst, I was taking minimum 62 tablets a month, that was 2 a day and typically at night to help me sleep) and I take advantage of a massage every so often, I probably should do it more often because it helps a lot. I also get physiotherapy done every 6 weeks or so. I tried chiropractic therapy and acupuncture and both were essentially hit or miss for me. I also have the whole, mind over matter thing going for me, but I still need to be careful and remind myself that I can't do all the things I used to do once upon a time and that it is very important to rest.

I know that no two people have the same pain. They may have similar pain, and what works for one person, might not work for another person. Because, while some people do take offence (pretty damn often to be frank) at being told that their pain is all in their head, it's blooming true. The brain is the super computer that is running this mean skeleton and therefore, the brain aka it's all in your head, is receiving all these overblown messages telling you that your right calf is in throbbing pain, even though you haven't done anything to cause this pain. So I think having a more logical approach than an emotional approach, which honestly, a lot of people with chronic pain are going to come from an emotional place because your life changes so much and not for the better either.

So, for now, the drugs are really inadequate for the large scale problems we have now and frankly, I think most of the blame needs to be laid directly at the feet of the drug companies which has cause so many problems. I don't think we will ever be able to because truly drug free when it comes to chronic conditions. At least in the initial stages, when you are learning (barely) to live with it, then yeah, drug therapy is important. But being able to work things out, and you truly do become your own expert in this and having a gp and specialist team who will listen to you and take what you know and say into consideration helps a LOT to move forward, and figure out what works for you to function, be it 100% drug therapy, 10% drug therapy, 0% drug therapy, any percentage mixed with alternative therapies. I think the end goal, should be able to function without drugs, however that is not going to be possible for everyone and therefore a hell of a lot more research is needed, and not just for chronic pain.

Completely random new thought...well, question. Thank you uni work for distracting me lol.

Would things have turned out differently in WW2, if the USA didn't end up dropping the two bombs on Japan to end the war faster? If they didn't drop the bombs, would the war have ended or in your opinion, would the war have continued for either a few more months/years?
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Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:58 am
Would things have turned out differently in WW2, if the USA didn't end up dropping the two bombs on Japan to end the war faster? If they didn't drop the bombs, would the war have ended or in your opinion, would the war have continued for either a few more months/years?

Unfortunately, if we hadn't dropped the bombs, the war would have dragged on for a few more years. . .part of the decision for using the bomb was the determination that there would have been millions of casualties on both sides if we would have had to attack the Japanese mainland, every single man woman and child would have fought against us. . .

There are those who continue to argue that we should never dropped the bombs, but the harsh reality is that we (the USA and our allies) would have paid dearly, if we hadn't dropped them. . .Our Greatest Generation would still have been our Greatest Generation, but there would have been a lot less of them who would have actually survived the War.


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Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:32 pm
I have to agree with Sir Scarz. It was sad, but necessary. I also like to think that doing that showed the whole world just how dangerous nuclear weapons are. I hope no one ever needs, or is tempted, to use them again. That includes the U.S. Unfortunately war seems to be a part of life. There are many ways to fight a war, but it would be better if no one uses something as destructive as a nuclear weapon.
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Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:38 pm
I personally like to think that it wasn't necessary to drop two bombs. One should have been enough to get the message across. However, the Japanese were obviously very stubborn at the time, and I do understand why it was done.

And yeah, it seems like we can never actually get away from war. Perhaps one day we will live in a world where peace is a permanent fixture in our lives, however, I don't believe that it will be in our lifetime and perhaps not for several generations...or ever. There are things about the human condition that is probably going to ensure we don't change. Sigh
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Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:56 am

If we can get over the idea of personal gain (greed - which is different than doing well and reaping the benefits of your own honest efforts), control (over others; we first must find control over ourselves), ego (the idea that our emotional state is somehow fragile and unnatural (and must be protected at all costs)) and separation (that "we/us" is somehow different and more special or prized than everyone else on the planet; i.e. we need more compassion!), we could make the changes necessary to live in a peaceful society. But until those fundamental changes are made on a deep societal level (they can not be legislated), things will remain the same. Unfortunately.

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